Hello All..

Micronet decided to throw in a curveball.

For a couple of weeks now, this was working fine:

Listfile=micronet.###
UpdateFile=micronet.###
UpdateArchive=micronet.z##
DelUpdate=J
DoDiff=N
Format=1
zone=618

In otherwords, my bossnode was delivering micronet.zip with
micronet.### inside.

The last two updates processed automatically quite fine.

But I *just* received MICRONET.Z92, with micronet.092 inside.

At first, I thought this would be the solution:

Listfile=micronet.###
UpdateFile=micronet.###
UpdateArchive=MICRONET.Z##
DelUpdate=J
DoDiff=N
Format=1
zone=618

But that did NOT work in the automatic mode. :( Automatic mode
would normally kick in the NEXT TIME OpenXP is lauched. I was a
bit surprised by that. FSXNET.Z## which operates the same way
has not problem at all upadating automatically. I wondered..
WHY doesn't the MICRONET.Z## file cooperating?

The last FSXNET.Z## contains:

Archive: FSXNET.Z92
Length Date Time Name
-------- ---- ---- ----
36459 04/01/21 09:15 FSXNET.092
-------- -------
36459 1 file


Looking inside MICRONET.Z##:

Archive: MICRONET.Z92
Micronet Information Network nodelist for
02 April 2021 (day 92). A friendly
and active international BBS mail network.
Info on how to join is in the nodelist.
Length Date Time Name
-------- ---- ---- ----
26735 04/02/21 13:35 micronet.092
165 04/02/21 13:47 file_id.diz
-------- -------
26900 2 files

SO.. the difference is that the latter has TWO files inside.

Could it be that the presence of file_id_diz is throwing off the
automatic processing to work as expected?

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Re: nodelist curveball
By: Martin Foster to August Abolins on Sun Apr 04 2021 11:33:00

Maybe, maybe not but I would say that micronet need to get their
act together with their filenaming convention for their nodelist
files before anyone attempts to offer a solution to your problem.

it should be noted that the micronet ZC's modem suffered from a lightning strike and they were down until a new mpdem was procured... during this time, the nodelist and ZC activities were transferred to the 2nd "in command"...
the two systems are different which explains the filename case differences as well as the appearance of the file_id.diz...

As things stand at the moment, I couldn't even hazard a guess as
to what the problem could be, sorry.

without knowing more about what the client software is doing, there's no way to even start to guess... from my side as an observer, i would say the software is simply being too strict and needs to lighten up a little ;)


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Hello Martin!

** On Sunday 04.04.21 - 11:33, you wrote to me:

The last FSXNET.Z## contains:
Looking inside MICRONET.Z##:

Maybe, maybe not but I would say that micronet need to get their act together with their filenaming convention for their nodelist files before anyone attempts to offer a solution to your problem. As things stand at the moment, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to what the problem could be, sorry.

The only difference between FSXNET.Z## working and MICRONET.Z##
not working is the presence of the 2nd file file_id.diz in the
latter.

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Hello mark lewis!

** On Sunday 04.04.21 - 10:57, you wrote to Martin Foster:

it should be noted that the micronet ZC's modem suffered from a lightning strike and they were down until a new mpdem was procured... during this time, the nodelist and ZC activities were transferred to the 2nd "in command"... the two systems are different which explains the filename
case differences as well as the appearance of the file_id.diz...

The temporary ZC activities is appreciated!

What modem replacement were you able to find? I have a modest
museum of old modems. I don't know what to do with them.

without knowing more about what the client software is doing, there's no way to even start to guess... from my side as an observer, i would say
the software is simply being too strict and needs to lighten up a little ;)

OR.. maybe ditch the inclusion of file_id_diz. No one else has
that in their distributed nodelists. ;)
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Re: nodelist curveball
By: August Abolins to mark lewis on Sun Apr 04 2021 12:31:00

it should be noted that the micronet ZC's modem suffered from a
lightning strike and they were down until a new mpdem was
procured... during this time, the nodelist and ZC activities
were transferred to the 2nd "in command"... the two systems are
different which explains the filename case differences as well
as the appearance of the file_id.diz...

The temporary ZC activities is appreciated!

i'm sure they (andrew leary) apprecite the sentiment... i'm not involved with micronet other than as an outside observer...

What modem replacement were you able to find? I have a modest
museum of old modems. I don't know what to do with them.

we're talking about an ISP modem... i know the story because sean is one of my links and he was keeping us updated... the ISP sent a zyxel...


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*** Quoting August Abolins from a message to Martin Foster ***

The only difference between FSXNET.Z## working and MICRONET.Z## not working is the presence of the 2nd file file_id.diz in the latter.

Do you get MICRONET.Z## files? I've only ever received MICRONET.ZIP files with a MICRONET.### (e.g. MICRONET.092) in it.

Jay

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Hello Jay!

** On Sunday 04.04.21 - 21:20, you wrote:

The only difference between FSXNET.Z## working and MICRONET.Z## not
working is the presence of the 2nd file file_id.diz in the latter.

Do you get MICRONET.Z## files? I've only ever received MICRONET.ZIP
files with a MICRONET.### (e.g. MICRONET.092) in it.

To: /¯NETCALL (All)
From: August Abolins @ 2:221/1.58 (RBB, Ylojarvi)
Subject: Netcall to 618:510/1
Software: OpenXP/5.0.49 (Win32)
Date: Fr 02.04.21, 17:18
Size: 586 Bytes
---------------------------------------------------------
1 19 F1-Help
= 17:18:11 CONNECT
17:18:11 OPT CRAM-MD5-477f50a61dbfe5a1154e500afafb12ee
17:18:11 SYS Alterant MailHub
17:18:11 ZYZ Deon George
17:18:11 LOC Parkdale, VIC AU
17:18:11 NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
17:18:11 TIME Sat, 3 Apr 2021 08:18:08 +1100
17:18:11 VER binkd/1.1a-111/Linux binkp/1.1
17:18:13 TRF 0 11743
17:18:13 OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
17:18:13 secure
* 17:18:13 Rcvd MICRONET.Z92, 9776b
* 17:18:13 Rcvd 13djv5a3.tic, 871b
* 17:18:13 Rcvd 674ec500.sa0, 1096b
= 17:18:14 hangup
- 17:18:14 exiting

Maybe it was just a one-of. I only seem to remember only
getting the lowercase micronet.zip with micronet.### inside.
Are you getting an uppercase version?

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Hi Ogg,

Looks like I receive an uppercase MICRONET.ZIP file (not .Z##) with a lowercase micronet.### inside of it:

=== begin binkd.log ===
- 02 Apr 20:00:00 [3500] receiving MININFO.ZIP (9440 byte(s), off 0)
+ 02 Apr 20:00:01 [3500] MININFO.ZIP -> c:\telegard\echomail\in\MININFO.ZIP
+ 02 Apr 20:00:01 [3500] rcvd: MININFO.ZIP (9440, 9440.00 CPS, 1:229/426@fidonet)
- 02 Apr 20:00:01 [3500] receiving MICRONET.ZIP (9513 byte(s), off 0)
+ 02 Apr 20:00:01 [3500] MICRONET.ZIP -> c:\telegard\echomail\in\MICRONET.ZIP
+ 02 Apr 20:00:01 [3500] rcvd: MICRONET.ZIP (9513, 9513.00 CPS, 1:229/426@fidonet)
=== end binkd.log ===


C:\TELEGARD\FILES\MIN_LIST>pkunzip -v MICRONET.ZIP
Searching ZIP: MICRONET.ZIP - Micronet Information Network nodelist for
2 April 2021 (day 92). A friendly
and active international BBS mail network.
Info on how to join is in the nodelist.

Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Attr Name
------ ------ ----- ----- ---- ---- -------- ---- ----
164 DeflatX 128 22% 04-02-21 04:05 d12ff4fd --- file_id.diz
25619 DeflatX 8967 65% 04-02-21 04:05 4c5f33e2 --- micronet.092
------ ------ --- -------
25783 9095 65% 2

Jay

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Hello Jay!

** On Monday 05.04.21 - 08:02, you wrote:

Looks like I receive an uppercase MICRONET.ZIP file (not .Z##) with a lowercase micronet.### inside of it:

Interesting.. so upper/lower naming is changed along the way?

I would get a LOWERCASE version:

= 20:06:59 CONNECT
20:06:59 OPT CRAM-MD5-5ae4b85048bdd0bce0ec630b94eb4dee
20:06:59 SYS Alterant MailHub
20:06:59 ZYZ Deon George
20:06:59 LOC Parkdale, VIC AU
20:06:59 NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
20:06:59 TIME Sat, 3 Apr 2021 11:06:56 +1100
20:06:59 VER binkd/1.1a-111/Linux binkp/1.1
20:07:00 TRF 0 30242
20:07:00 OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
20:07:00 secure
* 20:07:01 Rcvd 67afcd00.sa0, 9403b
* 20:07:02 Rcvd micronet.zip, 9513b
* 20:07:02 Rcvd 13dkejy3.tic, 940b
* 20:07:02 Rcvd mininfo.zip, 9440b
* 20:07:02 Rcvd 13dkejy7.tic, 946b
= 20:07:03 hangup
- 20:07:03 exiting

And, lowercase ver is inside:

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>unzip -l micronet.zip
Archive: micronet.zip
Micronet Information Network nodelist for
2 April 2021 (day 92). A friendly
and active international BBS mail network.
Info on how to join is in the nodelist.
Length Date Time Name
-------- ---- ---- ----
164 04/02/21 05:05 file_id.diz
25619 04/02/21 05:05 micronet.092
-------- -------
25783 2 files


Aside from that, I think the "description" part may be throwing
OFF OpenXP's nodelist processor:


H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>unzip -l micronet.zip
Archive: micronet.zip
Micronet Information Network nodelist for |
2 April 2021 (day 92). A friendly |<--THESE LINES?
and active international BBS mail network. |
Info on how to join is in the nodelist. |
Length Date Time Name
-------- ---- ---- ----
164 04/02/21 05:05 file_id.diz
25619 04/02/21 05:05 micronet.092
-------- -------
25783 2 files

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Hello mark!

*** Sunday 04.04.21 at 10:57, mark lewis wrote to Martin Foster:

Re: nodelist curveball
By: Martin Foster to August Abolins on Sun Apr 04 2021 11:33:00

Maybe, maybe not but I would say that micronet need to get their
act together with their filenaming convention for their nodelist
files before anyone attempts to offer a solution to your problem.

it should be noted that the micronet ZC's modem suffered from a lightning strike and they were down until a new mpdem was procured... during this time, the nodelist and ZC activities were transferred to the 2nd "in command"... the two systems are different which explains the filename
case differences as well as the appearance of the file_id.diz...

OK, fine, thanks for the heads-up.

Regards,
Martin

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