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* From : Dmitry Protasoff, 2:5001/100.1 (Sunday July 27 2025 18:33)
* To : All
* Subj : FidoNet Nodelist Database ============================================================================= Hello, All!

I was playing around with DuckDB and Golang and in parallel, I needed an API to query node information for my other pet Fidonet projects.
So I created https://nodelist.fidonet.cc and shared the DuckDB database used there (many thanks to Pavel Gulchouck for original https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/ project!).

Enjoy!

PS. New nodelists will be added there automatically in a couple of days. Sorry for any possible bugs.


Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, All!


Best regards,
dp.

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* From : Dmitry Protasoff, 2:5001/100.1 (Sunday July 27 2025 18:33)
* To : All
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Hello, All!

I was playing around with DuckDB and Golang and in parallel, I needed
an API to query node information for my other pet Fidonet projects. So
I created https://nodelist.fidonet.cc and shared the DuckDB database
used there (many thanks to Pavel Gulchouck for original https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/ project!).

That looks pretty slick, well done.



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Hey Dmitry!

On Sun, Jul 27 2025 17:16:26 -0500, you wrote:

I was playing around with DuckDB and Golang and in parallel, I needed
an API to query node information for my other pet Fidonet projects.
So I created https://nodelist.fidonet.cc and shared the DuckDB
database used there (many thanks to Pavel Gulchouck for original https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/ project!).

Enjoy!

Very cool! I've bookmarked it for future use. ;)

I did notice one small thing. When doing a sysop search, it tells you you can use "John Doe" or "John_Doe". At this point, I was unable to use a space between first and last name, but using the underscore worked as expected. Tested using Firefox and Microsoft Edge, same result.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello, Dan!

Monday July 28 2025 09:55, you wrote to me:

I was playing around with DuckDB and Golang and in parallel, I
needed an API to query node information for my other pet Fidonet
projects. So I created https://nodelist.fidonet.cc and shared the
DuckDB database used there (many thanks to Pavel Gulchouck for
original
https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/ project!).

That looks pretty slick, well done.

Thanks!
New nodelists will now be added automatically, with the ability to download them from the web page or via the API.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, Nick!

Monday July 28 2025 17:30, you wrote to me:

I did notice one small thing. When doing a sysop search, it tells you
you can use "John Doe" or "John_Doe". At this point, I was unable to
use a space between first and last name, but using the underscore
worked as expected. Tested using Firefox and Microsoft Edge, same
result.

Thanks for pointing that out, I've fixed it!

Best regards,
dp.

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Re: FidoNet Nodelist Database
By: Dmitry Protasoff to All on Mon Jul 28 2025 01:16 am

So I created https://nodelist.fidonet.cc and shared the DuckDB database used there (many thanks to Pavel Gulchouck for original https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/ project!).

Very nice. I hope you keep it up. I added a link to it from https://wiki.synchro.net/network:fidonet
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Hello, Rob!

Tuesday July 29 2025 13:23, you wrote to me:

So I created https://nodelist.fidonet.cc and shared the DuckDB
database used there (many thanks to Pavel Gulchouck for original
https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/ project!).

Very nice. I hope you keep it up. I added a link to it from

Thanks!



Best regards,
dp.

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Hello Dmitry!

28 Jul 25 01:16, you wrote to All:

I was playing around with DuckDB and Golang and in parallel, I needed
an API to query node information for my other pet Fidonet projects. So
I created https://nodelist.fidonet.cc and shared the DuckDB database
used there (many thanks to Pavel Gulchouck for original https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/ project!).

Looks nice.

- in my case, searching the name, only underscore variant works
- do not understand these "removed from nodelist" - time to time (I was not)

I prefer that nodehist.. Easy overview, what is needed can fit into one page.

Also, who would need API for that? I mean for what reason?

Karel

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Hello Dmitry!

Thursday July 31 2025 04:38, you wrote to Rob Swindell:

You shouldn't be allowed to write any messages.

In November 2022, the European Parliament adopted a resolution declaring Russia a state sponsor of terrorism, citing war crimes and atrocities in Ukraine.

Your country should be disconnected from Fidonet.

Ward, please take care of this ASAP.

Alex

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Hello, Karel!

Thursday July 31 2025 06:54, you wrote to me:

Looks nice.

Thanks!

- in my case, searching the name, only underscore variant works

Mea culpa! I changed the database (added ClickHouse support in addition to DuckDB) and some queries were not fixed for that. Now it's working again.

- do not understand these "removed from nodelist" - time to time (I
was not)

The Nodelist wasn't always handled very well during Fidonet's history. For example, some Nodelists are missing Z1 entirely (or some nets and regions), sometimes nodes are duplicated and so on. I'm working on providing some solution for these issues, but it'll take a while since it's not a top priority right now.

I prefer that nodehist.. Easy overview, what is needed can fit into
one page.

It's not a replacemnt, just another implementation with more features.
For example: pointlists will be added soon.

Also, who would need API for that? I mean for what reason?

I do! I need it for my new echo reader. And also to get some fun.
For example: https://nodelist.fidonet.cc/analytics


Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, Alex!

Thursday July 31 2025 01:53, you wrote to me:

You shouldn't be allowed to write any messages.

Thank you ever so much for your incredibly humble opinion!

In November 2022, the European Parliament adopted a resolution
declaring Russia a state sponsor of terrorism, citing war crimes and atrocities in Ukraine.

Your country should be disconnected from Fidonet.

How is it going to help end the war in Ukraine?

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello Dmitry!

31 Jul 25 19:35, you wrote to me:

For example, some Nodelists are missing Z1 entirely (or some nets and regions), sometimes nodes are duplicated and so on. I'm working on providing some solution for these issues, but it'll take a while since it's not a top priority right now.

For me - looks like - is still in beta shape. (not ready even for UAT ;-)

Also, who would need API for that? I mean for what reason?

I do! I need it for my new echo reader. And also to get some fun.
For example: https://nodelist.fidonet.cc/analytics

Again - I understand your fun factor - but, somehow odd technology (as Fidonet is) kept the way of communication between us. Some dictatorships are trying to replace communication between people with their own agenda. To break fidonet connections will be easier for government - if API exists.

Karel

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Hello, Karel!

Friday August 01 2025 09:56, you wrote to me:

For example, some Nodelists are missing Z1 entirely (or some nets
and regions), sometimes nodes are duplicated and so on. I'm
working on providing some solution for these issues, but it'll
take a while since it's not a top priority right now.

For me - looks like - is still in beta shape. (not ready even for UAT
;-)

Of course, it's in the beta stage, but it's API and database are already being used by my software.
Thanks to the beta testers, I've already fixed most of the bugs.

But what was the alternative? https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/ has a lot of the same nodelist issues.
It's development has stopped and the chances of getting new features are close to zero.

I do! I need it for my new echo reader. And also to get some fun.
For example: https://nodelist.fidonet.cc/analytics

Again - I understand your fun factor - but, somehow odd technology (as Fidonet is) kept the way of communication between us. Some
dictatorships are trying to replace communication between people with their own agenda. To break fidonet connections will be easier for government - if API exists.

You can download this software and use it locally - source code and binaries are freely available for Windows, Linux and macOS (x64/ARM).
I'll share the DuckDB file once the database structure is stable, for anyone who just wants to analyze the data without spending time importing the nodelist files (it takes about 20 minutes for Clickhouse and >2 hours for DuckDB on modern Ryzen CPU).

I know that a large number of nodes and points don't even use a fresh nodelist, because there's no easy way to update it automatically.

The problem with Fidonet is that it's stuck using old technologies, which are very bad at bypassing modern firewalls and government restrictions.
It's very easy to block BinkP. It has no modern encryption. Modem connections are already unreliable because of VoIP.

But I hope that will change soon (TBA) ;)

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello Dmitry!

01 Aug 25 15:03, you wrote to me:

I know that a large number of nodes and points don't even use a fresh nodelist, because there's no easy way to update it automatically.

To be able handle nodelist proces was the minimum of the fidonet membership.

(e.g. in the past was annoying to phone old number)

The problem with Fidonet is that it's stuck using old technologies,
which are very bad at bypassing modern firewalls and government restrictions. It's very easy to block BinkP. It has no modern
encryption. Modem connections are already unreliable because of VoIP.

Slightly disagree. Few years ago there were (illegal which actual cases confirms) tries to block some web pages/domains/ip addresses. But you can still use IAX, put there some modem and call. Either ISDN is (was?) still available to get.

In 2002, big .cz flooding -> several datacentres were down. But fidonet members could communicate as phonelines were working.

Karel

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Hello, Karel!

Friday August 01 2025 15:24, you wrote to me:

I know that a large number of nodes and points don't even use a
fresh nodelist, because there's no easy way to update it
automatically.

To be able handle nodelist proces was the minimum of the fidonet membership.

It's very difficult to fight against people's laziness.

Slightly disagree. Few years ago there were (illegal which actual
cases confirms) tries to block some web pages/domains/ip addresses.
But you can still use IAX, put there some modem and call. Either ISDN
is (was?) still available to get.

What about IAX filtering? Very easy with DPI.

In 2002, big .cz flooding -> several datacentres were down. But
fidonet members could communicate as phonelines were working.

In some places in Russia during the 90s the state telco was blocking modem calls using frequency filtering devices to force people to pay extra.

Now they can simply block all modem calls by changing the voice codec. My modem uplink suddenly lost the ability to connect with any protocol except HST due to a configuration error at local exchange and it took them months to fix it.

Best regards,
dp.

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