**************************************************************************** Date: 26 Nov 19 13:14:34
From: Ward Dossche
To: Terry Roati
...
PATH: 292/854 280/464 221/1 230/150 152 261/38 320/219 221/1 292/854 ****************************************************************************

Another Husky or Mystic system somewhere dropping SEEN-BY lines?

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - May 18 2020
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Hi Ward,

On 2020-06-04 09:23:57, you wrote to All:

@MSGID: 2:292/854 0c1d3d20 ***************************************************************************
Date: 26 Nov 19 13:14:34
From: Ward Dossche
To: Terry Roati
...
PATH: 292/854 280/464 221/1 230/150 152 261/38 320/219 221/1 292/854 ***************************************************************************

Another Husky or Mystic system somewhere dropping SEEN-BY lines?

Seems more like some kind of rescan took place. I got to "massive" dumps of older mail in the last couple of hours:

---------- Thu 2020-06-04 03:30:49, FMail-lnx64-2.1.0.18-Beta20170815 - Toss Summary
Board Area name #Msgs Dupes
----- -------------------------------------------------- ----- -----
JAM EARTH 221 0

Received from node #Msgs Dupes Sec V
------------------------ ----- ----- -----
2:221/0 234 16 0


---------- Thu 2020-06-04 07:38:02, FMail-lnx64-2.1.0.18-Beta20170815 - Toss Summary
Board Area name #Msgs Dupes
----- -------------------------------------------------- ----- -----
200 Bad messages 888
JAM EARTH 154 0

Received from node #Msgs Dupes Sec V
------------------------ ----- ----- -----
2:221/0 154 19 0

I've filtered and sorted the PATH lines from the messages in my BAD area:

@PATH: 102/127 153/757 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 103/705 218/700 261/38 230/150 152 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 120/302 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 123/140 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 123/256 116/18 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 129/125 266/512 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 153/757 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 154/50 322/0 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 218/530 700 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 221/1 203/0 154/10 3634/12 153/757 250 770/1 712/848 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 221/1 203/0 154/10 3634/12 153/7715 250 770/1 712/848 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 230/150 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 2320/105 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 250/1 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 250/5 1 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 261/1306 1 266/512 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 266/512 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 275/301 100 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 282/1031 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 292/854 280/464 221/1 230/150 152 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 317/3 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 322/756 0 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 340/400 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 640/1321 1384 280/5555 221/6 1 230/150 152 261/38 320/219 221/1

So all end in '320/219 221/1', so I suspect something went wrong between 320/219 and 221/1 ...?


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

04 Jun 20 09:40, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Ward Dossche:

I've filtered and sorted the PATH lines from the messages in my BAD area:

@PATH: 102/127 153/757 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 103/705 218/700 261/38 230/150 152 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 120/302 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 123/140 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 123/256 116/18 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 129/125 266/512 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 153/757 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 154/50 322/0 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 218/530 700 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 221/1 203/0 154/10 3634/12 153/757 250 770/1 712/848 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 221/1 203/0 154/10 3634/12 153/7715 250 770/1 712/848 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 230/150 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 2320/105 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 250/1 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 250/5 1 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 261/1306 1 266/512 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 266/512 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 275/301 100 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 282/1031 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 292/854 280/464 221/1 230/150 152 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 317/3 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 322/756 0 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 340/400 261/38 320/219 221/1
@PATH: 640/1321 1384 280/5555 221/6 1 230/150 152 261/38 320/219 221/1

Nice :)

So all end in '320/219 221/1', so I suspect something went wrong between 320/219 and 221/1 ...?

Yep. There was a lot of unsent mail for me at 1:320/219. Andrew has just fixed a bug in his mbfido.

rcvd: 006300db.mo0 (5318792, 664849.00 CPS, 1:320/219@fidonet)
rcvd: 006300db.tu0 (5113716, 730530.86 CPS, 1:320/219@fidonet)
rcvd: 006300db.we0 (5344332, 763476.00 CPS, 1:320/219@fidonet)
rcvd: 006300db.th0 (5211737, 744533.86 CPS, 1:320/219@fidonet)
rcvd: 006300db.fr0 (5549281, 792754.43 CPS, 1:320/219@fidonet)
rcvd: 006300db.sa0 (4912474, 701782.00 CPS, 1:320/219@fidonet)
rcvd: 006300db.su1 (6094278, 761784.75 CPS, 1:320/219@fidonet)

'Tommi

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* Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi (2:221/1)

Re: Re: Just got this ...
By: Ward Dossche to mark lewis on Thu Jun 04 2020 14:19:02

Other than that, a rescan should only affect the system performing
the rescan, not everybody else...

that depends on the mail tosser... some simply toss all mail to all
links no matter if it were a rescan or not...

For all intents and purposes, I would call that a bug.

more of a design defect... but we must also remember that rescans came later and there was no indication of them having been done... also most systems were leaf nodes so rescans didn't really matter... the problem comes when a system feeding others does a rescan and doesn't know about or take the ^aRESCAN control line into account when tossing... this is all relatively new, though...


)\/(ark
--- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
* Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)

mark,

For all intents and purposes, I would call that a bug.

more of a design defect... but we must also remember that rescans came later and there was no indication of them having been done... also most systems were leaf nodes so rescans didn't really matter... the problem comes when a system feeding others does a rescan and doesn't know about
or take the ^aRESCAN control line into account when tossing... this is
all relatively new, though...

Do you have relatives in the Netherlands perhaps?

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - May 18 2020
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

On Jun 05, 2020 01:19pm, Bj”rn Felten wrote to Mark Lewis:

Importing messages into your proprietary BBS message base, and then exporting it from that -- with all the bugs and mistakes the BBS
software has -- is what causes all those huge mistakes.

As soon as EVERY ONE claiming to take part of FTN echo mail
distribution, understands the importance of pass-thru, we will
forever be ridden of those "bombs".

Not all software can do that, PXW it's either or not both, as far as I know it doesn't have any issues.

I am sure there are other softwares that don't have any issues also.

If folks use buggy software then they need to change it or it's a
configuration issue fix it.

Terry



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--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
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The man doth protest too much, methinks.

Pearls for the swine I fear ...

LOL! Yeah, it's not for everyone to know our classics. 8-)




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