• SDF

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/106 to Ed Vance on Mon Mar 30 21:12:36 2026
    Earlier I abbreviated Standiford Field (now Louisville International) as SFD.
    In rereading what I wrote I remembered SDF is the old 3letter id.

    As hard as I try I guess I will never acheive Mister Know It All status.

    O.K., Anymore post about this topic will be in Aviation.

    I read it as SDF so I knew what you meant. I am not even sure what the new abbreviation is, and I am a little surprised they changed it.

    Mike

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Mike Powell on Tue Mar 31 02:18:42 2026
    I read it as SDF so I knew what you meant. I am not even sure what the
    new abbreviation is, and I am a little surprised they changed it.

    It's still SDF ...

    You may be a bit confused as that is the IATA-naming, while the ICAO is KSDF.

    "K" means an airport in the USA, and they just prefix the IATA-code with it.

    In other parts of the world it's different, for example:

    Brussels IATA > BRU ICAO > EBBR (EB > Belgium)
    Amsterdam IATA > AMS ICAO > EHAM (EH > Netherlands)
    London Heathrow IATA > LHR ICAO > EGLL (EG > Great Britain)
    Paris De Gaulle IATA > CDG ICAO > LFPG (LF > France)
    Frankfurt IATA > FRA ICAO > EDDF (ED > Germany)
    Madrid IATA > MAD ICAO > LEMD (LE > Spain)

    Etc etc etc ...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/106 to Ward Dossche on Tue Mar 31 08:34:26 2026
    I read it as SDF so I knew what you meant. I am not even sure
    what the new abbreviation is, and I am a little surprised they
    changed it.

    It's still SDF ...

    You may be a bit confused as that is the IATA-naming, while the
    ICAO is KSDF.

    OK, for some reason I thought they changed it during one of the
    renamings but I was mistaken. Thanks for the clarification!

    Mike

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/107 to Mike Powell on Tue Mar 31 21:17:52 2026


    OK, for some reason I thought they changed it during one of the
    renamings but I was mistaken. Thanks for the clarification!

    Mike

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    Thanks to Ward I learned something in his post.

    LOU is Boeman Field ID.
    I remember hearing .-.. --- ..- on a portable radio that has Air Band frequency coverage on it
    Ed
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Ed Vance on Wed Apr 1 12:53:30 2026
    Ed,

    Thanks to Ward I learned something in his post.

    Oops ... I did something valuable? <swallow>

    Well, some clarification.

    The IATA-codes are issued by the International Air Transport Association.
    It's the trade association for the world's airlines, some 370 with varrying numbers. But not all carriers are a member. It sets technical air-safety standards and assigns the 3-letter airport codes used in reservation systems. One of the problems here is that it allows for a theoretical maximum of 17,576 airports, but in reality that is significantly less as certain combinations are not used.

    The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) is one of the UN agencies that manages the administration and governance of the Convention of Chicago (1948, I think, which structured world aviation). It uses 4-character codes where the firstone is a global locator, the 2nd the country, and the 2 remaining a 2-character airport code withing that country. It is less flexible than the IATA-code as "K" is the global locater for the USA and "C" for Canada supplemented by the IATA-code. So you have KJFK for Kennedy airport, KLAX for Los Angeles, CYYC for Calgary, CYYZ for Toronto etc ... also re: the second position there would only be 26 countries in the world, so that doesn't work either.

    There's also a third code possible, the "WMO" ... World Meteorological Organisation if the airport has a weather station (not all airports do). The code consists of 5 digits ...the first digit gives the region: 0 to 1 for Europe, 2 to 3 for Russia, 4 for Asia, 5 for the Far East, 6 for Africa, 7 for North America, 8 for South America and Antarctica, and 9 for the Pacific.

    So for example 72295 is the WMO-code for LAX-airport, 03772 for London Heathrow, Frankfurt is 10637, Beijing (PEK) is 54511, Johannesburg is 68368, Sydney is 94767 ... and so on.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Ed Vance on Wed Apr 1 05:19:34 2026
    On Tue 31-Mar-2026 9:17p, Ed Vance@1:2320/107.0 said to Mike Powell:

    LOU is Boeman Field ID.
    I remember hearing .-.. --- ..- on a portable radio that has Air Band frequency coverage on it

    You keep your dit's and Da's to yourself!!!! CW SUCKS!! :)

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/107 to Ward Dossche on Wed Apr 1 11:29:48 2026
    Warg, Thanks foe EDucating Ed some more.

    I carried messages from the Radio Room up to the Weather center on the upper level of the Navy Ships I served on.
    It was a whole new world up there. To Me

    In civilian life, I worked at a Lock and Dam on a river.
    6AM in the morning my shift read the Thermometers in the WX Box and noted the condition of the sky to include in our Morning Report of the river levels abovea d below the Lock.

    As a Amateur Radio licensee I attended a SKYWARN class to learn how to report Severe WX.
    Ed
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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/107 to Rug Rat on Wed Apr 1 12:23:26 2026
    Rug Rat,
    Because a Junior High School friend delivered newspapers to my home, I would often walk along with him as he delivered papers.
    He had a Novice license, and was a year older than I was.
    He met a fellow in High School who had his Novice license too and one day that friend walked along as the newspapers were delivered.
    These two guys talked to each other whistling Morse Code and I had no idea if they were talking about Me.

    I went to the Library to find a book to help me learn Morse Code (CW).
    The book I found was a U.S. Army Manual called IIRC An Menomic Device for Learning The International Morse Code.

    I still recall the instructions for the letter P.
    The word Pan was shown as: P = a n
    .--. = .- -.

    Pan was easy for me to remember.
    Z was hard for me to learn until I got issued the Novice Call KN4ZIQ .

    My Phonetics for the ZIQ letters is: Zero Intelligence Quoation.
    I passed the Novice Test in the summer between 10th and 11th Grade .

    Because the wife thiught the wires I had running out of a doorway in one room and going up through the Attic Stairway looked ugly to her I removed them and haven't had a A1 QSO on my HF rig since.
    Although when vehicles pass by me on the road I often will look at the letters on their License Plate and "sound out" by thinking of the letters in Morse Code.

    As I wrote above I learned Morse Code to defend myself if my Paperboy and his friend ever talked about me in code againwhile Isas walking with them.
    That was 70 years ago.

    Another story: I was driving through a City in another State, talking to someone on 2Meter Mobile when another ham joined the QSO and accused Me of not owning a Amateur Radio License because my Call Sign now is W9ODR which indicated to him that I lived up North since the Ninth Call Sign Area is Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin area.

    I told him when I got my Novice License I lived in Kentucky and my accent stayed with me when I moved to Indiana , and if he didn't believe I was licensed I would say the alphabet backwards over the microphone, and started saying:
    DAH DAH DI DIT, DAH DI DAH DAH, DAH DI DI DAH, DI DAH DAH...
    ZYXW... and unkeyed the mike.

    If the Audio circuitry fails on your radio you could still use the radio to communicate by clicking the PTT Button ro send code.

    I haven't listened to see if anyone still used the CW portion of the Ham Bands, guess I just made a ROUNDTUIT for myself to listen to see if their is any CW attivity now on HF.
    73 Ed
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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Ed Vance on Wed Apr 1 13:43:52 2026
    Unfortunately there are.. CW will never die.. Though I glad it was removed as a testing requirement.

    I am a happy NO CODE extra.. :) Though I did do the code test for the General many many moons ago..

    Never liked the code, will never like the code..

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/107 to Rug Rat on Thu Apr 2 12:13:00 2026

    Unfortunately there are.. CW will never die.. Though I glad it was removed as a testing requirement.

    I am a happy NO CODE extra.. :) Though I did do the code test for the General many many moons ago..

    Never liked the code, will never like the code..

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    I entered a reply but it didn't get rcvd by the BBS
    Iguess Maybe I"timed out" the BBS too.

    My reply was Longwinded.

    Amateur Radio has many Modes to use and some Hams enjoy using one Mode over the others.
    My Station has been used on CW, AM, SSB, FM and RTTY.
    But that has been a long time ago

    I think I could still pass the Avanced test if called to do it.
    73 -.-
    Ed
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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Ed Vance on Fri Apr 3 00:54:58 2026
    On Thu 2-Apr-2026 12:13p, Ed Vance@1:2320/107.0 said to Rug Rat:

    Amateur Radio has many Modes to use and some Hams enjoy using one Mode over
    the others.
    My Station has been used on CW, AM, SSB, FM and RTTY.
    But that has been a long time ago

    I think I could still pass the Avanced test if called to do it.

    I really enjoy RTTY, and SSTV...

    Advanced test, now there is another test I failed multiple times.

    My problem with the Advanced was the MATH, and the new Extra incorporated a lot of it. The books just never did a good job of explaining the MATH! They basically just feed it to you from a garden hose all at once, and I would just get lost in the formula.

    The W4EEY Online courses was the first material that could make it make any sense, as they showed you only the formula or operations needed to answer the question. So taken as their seperate elements, I could see okay each of these fomulat represent this part of the big picture, but this question already gives me these values, I only need ONE formulae to solve for what they are asking and it is this....

    I probbably could not pass the test today, as I did a brain dump the second I walked out of the testing center.

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