• Trump's Immigration Proposal

    From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Sat May 25 00:05:40 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    Since more whites are better educated than non-whites, then
    more white folks would be allowed to immigrate than non-whites. >LL>Therefore, Donald Trump is a racist.

    Are you sure that "non-whites are uneducated" and that "President Trump is
    the racist?"

    You'll have to ask Kanye West.

    Andrew Young, who was raised in New Orleans, put things nicely
    by saying we are all racists and bigots, that what we do to overcome
    racism and bigotry (as individuals and as a society) is how we define ourselves.

    I couldn't agree with him more.

    (I'm learning how to "do the twist.")

    Don't forget to shout.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Wed May 29 10:56:50 2019
    Andrew Young, who was raised in New Orleans, put things nicely
    by saying we are all racists and bigots, that what we do to overcome racism and bigotry (as individuals and as a society) is how we define ourselves.

    This is something I've been saying in recent years too. My version is that everyone is racist but some people are better at keeping peace than others. (not that one group is better, but one person is better than another)

    But I don't see the immigration proposal as racist, just lousy and phoned-in.

    I don't see white people benefiting from it, except for those whites who have in-demand skills and who are coming from other countries. If more whites benefit from this type of immigration plan (which is unlikely) that would be either by chance, or because of racism is their home country.

    My dissatisfaction with this plan is because we have a huge problem with illegal immigration, but the president is playing around with some crayons
    and construction paper.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 30 20:58:02 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    Andrew Young, who was raised in New Orleans, put things nicely
    by saying we are all racists and bigots, that what we do to overcome >LL>racism and bigotry (as individuals and as a society) is how we define >LL>ourselves.

    This is something I've been saying in recent years too. My version is that >everyone is racist but some people are better at keeping peace than others. >(not that one group is better, but one person is better than another)

    George C. Wallace claimed he was not a racist, and never said
    the "N" word in public. Even though he did have a speech writer
    who was a former member of the KKK. When running for his fourth
    term for governor, he apologized to the black community for the
    words and actions he had taken in his previous incarnations as
    governor. Most forgave him, and granted him a fourth term.

    But I don't see the immigration proposal as racist, just lousy and
    phoned-in.

    Australia and Canada have immigration policies that are similar
    to what Trump is proposing. While some call it racist, not all do.

    I don't see white people benefiting from it, except for those whites who
    have
    in-demand skills and who are coming from other countries. If more whites >benefit from this type of immigration plan (which is unlikely) that would be >either by chance, or because of racism is their home country.

    It breaks up families, since Trump's proposal is merit-based, putting
    an emphasis on skills. A point system replacing family ties.

    My dissatisfaction with this plan is because we have a huge problem with >illegal immigration, but the president is playing around with some crayons >and construction paper.

    Employers who refuse to use E-verify should be heavily fined, thus
    discouraging them from continuing that practice. No wall needed.

    --Lee

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